Bottom line is there is no nutritional need for things from OTHER animals. Everything originates from the ground anyway. And animals only started eating each other during times when there wasn’t enough food.
It’s pretty neat. One of the things I find most fascinating is that in every instance they’ve seen it, it’s the females that figure out the tool use and teach it to the young of both sexes. They’re starting to re-examine their ideas of how tool use evolved in humans.
Silly me, I’m forgetting the insects are invertabrae. But I thought it was chimps and not gorillas that eat them. How about orangutans? How can a baboon take down an antelope, unless it’s a baby? This is all news to me!
If you do some quick research, you’ll find that in fact there’s only a few primates that are strictly carnivores or herbivores. The majority of them are omnivores. Baboons for example have been known to take down animals such as antelope.
As for gorillas, the diets range very widely but many of them eat insects. Chimps have also been known to crack open clam shells to eat what’s on the inside.
I’m all for eating much more fruits and veggies but clearly we’re omnivores too.
That last point is quite interesting. What kinds of invertabrea do they eat? Surely, not shellfish. I think one could make the argument for humans being essentially herbivorous, again, the teeth we have could prove we are more than leaf and fruit eaters, that we can eat bamboo and shoots. But tell me more about the gorilla.
Well sure people can consume too much of anything. Moderation is certainly key to any diet and staying healthy in general.
I don’t question people’s tendency to eat TOO much meat especially in today’s culture, but the original argument was about how people are trying to prove based on superficial anatomical observations that we’re plant eaters ONLY. This is clearly not the case as we do have the biology to digest animal meat.
It should be noted though that gorillas do also eat invertebrates.
These teeth allow us to eat more varieties of vegetation beyond greens or grass, unlike bovines. Gorillas have canine teeth as well, but are vegan.They need such teeth to be able to eat bamboo, something giraffes, elk, etc. cannot do I understand your pt., but I think at the end of the day, we’d agree we eat WAY too much meat, and perhaps we need it only a few times a month, if that.Try eating meat w/o condiments & I think you’ll look at this “affinity” from a different perspective.
i have the ability to walk out onto the highway and stand there and wait for a car to hit me. Does that mean i should go do it? Saying you are “designed” to eat meat doesn’t mean it is the best choice for your health, does it? Just as i am designed to walk out onto the highway and get run over, i avoid it because it would not be healthy.
urtv1 said :
February 9, 2010 at 5:52 am
all these stupid diets. The secret to weight loss is simple, Eat sensibly and exercise.
BobDG30 said :
February 9, 2010 at 6:13 am
not saying anything bad about this it’s a great idea but it’s an NBC affiliate not actual network television news program.
Bear261186 said :
February 9, 2010 at 6:13 am
Nope, its actually quite easy and quite good for you, I’ve been raw for two years and I look and feel great
JuniorShaman said :
February 9, 2010 at 6:32 am
@bummercucumber Heheh, yes it does happen SOMETIMES… ;]
Stay natural, keep it raw!
-Peace & Love-
dream2last said :
February 9, 2010 at 6:57 am
thanks good informations!
obdami said :
February 9, 2010 at 7:42 am
No cheesburgers?
Gary1111001 said :
February 9, 2010 at 7:53 am
Why waste the time. All that matters is that humans do great on a herbivore diet …… for whoever wants that greatness.
Go RV’n !!!………811 style
Gary1111001 said :
February 9, 2010 at 8:01 am
Bottom line is there is no nutritional need for things from OTHER animals. Everything originates from the ground anyway. And animals only started eating each other during times when there wasn’t enough food.
BTW – nice play you two put on.
bummercucumber said :
February 9, 2010 at 8:07 am
Raw food in a positive light? When was this?
Awesome!
Soulblackman said :
February 9, 2010 at 9:05 am
What primates are herbivores? Where to orangutans fit in?
Soulblackman said :
February 9, 2010 at 9:44 am
So at the end of the day, is a 100% raw food infeasible, unnatural and dangerous?
sunnyreds41 said :
February 9, 2010 at 10:28 am
baboons eat gazelle’s all the time. thier a lot like dogs or wolves the way they hunt
Radjehuty said :
February 9, 2010 at 11:14 am
Really pretty interesting. I just wish I knew where on Earth this idea that people are purely vegetarian by nature.
sarahmouse11 said :
February 9, 2010 at 11:34 am
It’s pretty neat. One of the things I find most fascinating is that in every instance they’ve seen it, it’s the females that figure out the tool use and teach it to the young of both sexes. They’re starting to re-examine their ideas of how tool use evolved in humans.
Radjehuty said :
February 9, 2010 at 11:41 am
Great thanks! I’ll definitely look this up.
sarahmouse11 said :
February 9, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Google “chimpanzee spear” and you should get a link to the National Geographic article from 2007.
Radjehuty said :
February 9, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Really? Have any sources you can point to so I can read further about this?
sarahmouse11 said :
February 9, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Chimps hunt bushbabies with homemade spears, and they’re much more closely related to us than gorillas are.
AfricanKillerBee said :
February 9, 2010 at 1:49 pm
Raw food diet is the diet for weight loss! Think about it – if you don’t intake any fat, then you body uses what is stored!!!
Soulblackman said :
February 9, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Silly me, I’m forgetting the insects are invertabrae. But I thought it was chimps and not gorillas that eat them. How about orangutans? How can a baboon take down an antelope, unless it’s a baby? This is all news to me!
Radjehuty said :
February 9, 2010 at 3:08 pm
If you do some quick research, you’ll find that in fact there’s only a few primates that are strictly carnivores or herbivores. The majority of them are omnivores. Baboons for example have been known to take down animals such as antelope.
As for gorillas, the diets range very widely but many of them eat insects. Chimps have also been known to crack open clam shells to eat what’s on the inside.
I’m all for eating much more fruits and veggies but clearly we’re omnivores too.
Soulblackman said :
February 9, 2010 at 3:25 pm
That last point is quite interesting. What kinds of invertabrea do they eat? Surely, not shellfish. I think one could make the argument for humans being essentially herbivorous, again, the teeth we have could prove we are more than leaf and fruit eaters, that we can eat bamboo and shoots. But tell me more about the gorilla.
Radjehuty said :
February 9, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Well sure people can consume too much of anything. Moderation is certainly key to any diet and staying healthy in general.
I don’t question people’s tendency to eat TOO much meat especially in today’s culture, but the original argument was about how people are trying to prove based on superficial anatomical observations that we’re plant eaters ONLY. This is clearly not the case as we do have the biology to digest animal meat.
It should be noted though that gorillas do also eat invertebrates.
Soulblackman said :
February 9, 2010 at 4:07 pm
These teeth allow us to eat more varieties of vegetation beyond greens or grass, unlike bovines. Gorillas have canine teeth as well, but are vegan.They need such teeth to be able to eat bamboo, something giraffes, elk, etc. cannot do I understand your pt., but I think at the end of the day, we’d agree we eat WAY too much meat, and perhaps we need it only a few times a month, if that.Try eating meat w/o condiments & I think you’ll look at this “affinity” from a different perspective.
jhardknox said :
February 9, 2010 at 4:40 pm
i have the ability to walk out onto the highway and stand there and wait for a car to hit me. Does that mean i should go do it? Saying you are “designed” to eat meat doesn’t mean it is the best choice for your health, does it? Just as i am designed to walk out onto the highway and get run over, i avoid it because it would not be healthy.